Unlike the guy in the first video, this fellow knows what a gun is for
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There are some people you just shouldn't fuck with

ridiculous, he goes to wind him up, carrying a gun, when the guy picks up an object that at worst would bruise him, he points and gun in his face, the guy is putting the object down and gets shot in the face. Sorry, this is murder...
Americas fucked up, they seem to like killing each other, a guy in the UK gets imprisoned for shooting a burglar who was in his home, in the states he'd of gota medal. Scarey place to live America..

I agree that it was excessive force, my point however was that a gun isn't something to fool around with

At what point does it become "justified" to use your gun over there? I'm not sure I fully understand your gun laws. All I saw was someone pick up a box and go to throw it. Like ogrishtm said it would probably only bruise him. i.e not life threatening. I'm not sure I like this idea of randoms carrying guns. Where do you draw the line on what is excessive force? I'm not anti gun before you shoot me down. (no pun intended!)

Nah in the UK the criminal's get rewarded, even compensated for being a criminal while law-abiding citizen's go to prison for their encounter's with criminal's. In the US the criminal's get what they deserve - shot in the face

In America... if you preceive a threat and feel it is justified to use lethal means to control it, then by all means "shoot". However, you'll be arrested, interviewed, questioned, interogated, probably go to court and either convicted or found guilty of murder.
It's better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6.
Bottom line, if that guy wouldn't have attacked the guy with the gun, he would have never gotten shot. Guns curb violence... this video will probably save 1000 lives.

i dont think the box would of killed him...

Of course, because getting smashed with a box is where it would end, right? No, you'd fall on the ground and then he would commence to stomping on your head until your unconcious, then he'd kick you in the face a few times, break your orbital bones in your skull, popping one of your eyeballs.
That guy was going to start a problem and the guy with the gun ended it. So keep this in mind if you ever get so mad that you want to assualt someone. You might be get a cap in yo ass.

Law is different state to state in the USA. In Arizona you can shoot to prevent: arson of an occupied structure, first or second degree burglary, kidnapping, manslaughter, first or second degree murder, sexual conduct with a minor, sexual assault, armed robbery or aggravated assault. The law says you have no duty to retreat before threatening to use or using deadly physical force under the circumstances listed above.
ARS 13-1204. Aggravated assault; classification; definition
A. A person commits aggravated assault if the person commits assault as prescribed by section 13-1203 under any of the following circumstances:
1. If the person causes serious physical injury to another.
2. If the person uses a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.

Well, you've got that right I guess.
But anyway, IM FUCKING PISSED OFF because they cut the clip short! WHY THE FUCK didnt they let it run til' the body hit the ground!?

"Let the bodies hit the floor,
let the bodies hit the floor" heh heh!

your a fucking retard, you cant tell what the fuck the object was or now where and how many times the guy would have hit the other guy so you dont know if you was planning on beating him to death so yeah it was fucking justifed, also that fucked up about the guy going to jail for shooting someone that broke into his home, what the fuck was he suppose to do just wait for cops fuck that you need to protect yourself and that just shows how fucked your government is

ridiculous, he goes to wind him up, carrying a gun, when the guy picks up an object that at worst would bruise him, he points and gun in his face, the guy is putting the object down and gets shot in the face. Sorry, this is murder...
Americas fucked up, they seem to like killing each other, a guy in the UK gets imprisoned for shooting a burglar who was in his home, in the states he'd of gota medal. Scarey place to live America..
Getting locked up for shooting a burglar in your own home is alot more scarey than this IMO.

The guy doing the shooting was not charged because it was deemed self defense. There is a minor argument over this because the other guy was apparently mentally unstable and the guy with the gun went to the gas station and provoked him. They have a history. Also, the shooters brother is a cop and he was posted up in his car 1/2 a block from the gas station. Maybe someone knows more, but they are saying that he got off becasue of who he knows and the corruption in the area.

How do you know? and regardless of wether he went to the gas station knowing he would be there or not it doesnt matter. In america you have the right to go where ever the gov. says you can, So if they guy was at the gas station waiting for him well it looks like he got what he was waiting for. Here in America we have the right to have guns, the guy with the box or crate (w/e) knew this, unless he is a fucking moron whos been living somewhere outside the us and decided to come over here and start some shit.
Bottom line, The guy with the box was a moron and got what he got, welcome to the real world.

Finally someone who doesn't get screwed over for having the RIGHT to carry a weapon.

people don't kill people, guns kill people, or vise versa..which ever floats your boat.

wow I guess the price of gas is really high

Guns dont kill people, husbands who come home from work early do.
priced of gas is soon to be on that list though

couldnt he just stab the guy?

Fucking justified to carry this weapon? What a fucking joke. Damn glad I don't live in a county where it's ok to murder someone for an attempted assault. If he can't fight he should have tried to run..and only used a weapon if he was trapped. Fucking coward should grow some balls and learn to defend himself like a man. This was horrific.

It was only attempted because he was killed before he had the chance to do bodily harm to the guy. Besides, Michigan does not have a 'duty to retreat' clause which means Preemptive self-defense is completely legal. You come at me and I'd shoot you in the face as well.

And you come near me and I'll shoot my man-jelly in your face first

Nice to see that when you are faced with an intelligent response, you stoop to ignorant replies to cover your idiocy. Besides, you can have whatever opinion you so desire, the law is still the LAW. And, with out any background into why these two men were feuding or audio recording of what was said at the gas station, you can not honestly state whether this man truly feared for his life or not.

Here is a more detailed news report of what actually happened. http://www.woodtv.com/Glo bal/story.asp?S=8077323

Thanx for the link.That is unbelievable.What a corrupt story.The gunman shoots to kill,gets off on self- defence oh and his brother happens to be a cop His lawyer called the surveillance tape a snuff film.No asshole it's called evidence I cannot believe this man got off with nothing and the other man's family is missing a member.Rot in hell fucktards

Threatening to kill someone is your idea of an intelligent reply. Fuck you gun-nut. Go blow Charlton Heston and kill possums with a rocket launcher. Pussy's need weapons.

I didn't threaten to kill anybody. I plainly stated that if someone was trying to attack me, trying to cause bodily harm, I would merely protect myself in a manner that is not only legal, but a constitutional right.
And if that doesn't suit you, then oh well. But, make sure you tell that guy that tries to car jack you, or rob you, or kidnap your kids that your not a pussy and maybe he will get scared and run away.

yea i agree with you on that one, that was some cowardness, and who knows that guy could have had a family or something..

Yeah, now who is going to teach his kids to attack people at gas stations?

you are a douche, no one is impressed with your comment, now go fuck yourself.

Who was your comment addressed to?

A black dude with a pickup, no freaking way. Nice though, i love how the dude is shot mid attack, nice work!
http://www.mlive.com/news /index.ssf/2008/0...th_is _cops.html

Ehhh everything evens out. Don't fuck with people or you might get SHOT!

Learn from this people bullets arent cheap one shot gets it done..
Save your $ for gas...

I don't see a problem here. I would have shot his ass too. Criminals understand violence...they don't listen to reason. Some people need to be shot.

I'd agree with that. Unless it was a matter of national security of course!

for all we know the guy holding the gun might've said something demeaning to the other bloke. How'd he manage to grab his gun so fast, was it in his pants waiting to be used? I think this was not a justified homicide, shoot the fucker in the arm, or the leg, or the gut, but to shoot someone in the face, you mean to kill them, and to have no seconds thoughts in doing that makes you the wrong type of person to have a gun. Hell someone shouts at him, he might "preemptively" shoot them! God bless America eh!

I'd agree with that. What if the guy with the gun asked him for his wallet? the guy on the right would feel immediately threatened and would be justified in attacking him. So then, the guy with gun shoots him and claims self defence. The perfect murder perhaps? Maybe...

i say we treat all criminals like that, it's the perfect rehabilitation if ya ask me....the next one might think twice before assulting someone after seeing this vid...

listen im all for defending yourself,family,property. but why shoot in the face at what looks like a man lunging with a soggy cardboard box?as there was history was the shooter just itching to do something to this dude who was probably abusive to him,his family his property,was the shooter angry at any point or did he fear for his life? it seems that the shooter had his gun trained for a little while at the dudes face,so it was'nt a split second thing,also why not shoot the dude anywhere else on his body? if someone comes at you with a knife,gun,something thats gonna cause serious injury or death,then i say EXECUTE THE MOTHERFUCKER,but if its not that dangerous,then break the cunts face without even needing to draw your weapon! maybe you had to be there and hear everything to fully comprehend what exactly went on!

No,No,No this was an illegal killing.no one knows the guys back story, the guy with the gun may have been tormenting the dead guy for years or might have wronged him in the past...What else drove the dead guy out to the gas station on foot?
Also the guy was a bit to quick to draw his weapon..which he had previously sought a permit to conceal..(most likely with the intent to kill john doe)...so its bullshit
and also he felt threatened??...look at 0.07 when the dead guy drops the jerry can..it bounces..it was fucking PLASTIC....so nae I cry MURDER!!!!
chew on them balls internet..

So glad that the video made this a justifiable homicide, was running out of your mama jokes to piss the guy off

This was, in my opinion, a justified homicide. I looked into the stories on the matter, and according to police reports, the shooter is the brother of a Police Officer. SOME will say this is why they let him off, but in my opinion, that is not the case. I think the fact that his brother is a cop is the reason he can so quickly draw his gun. He is certified to carry a concealed weapon (which isn't easy) and probably, like almost all officers, practiced drawing his weapon quite a lot. The object that the attacker picked up was not a cardboard box, it was a metal trash-can lid.
mcleans99sn: How do you know he was there on foot? It's not possible that his car was parked elsewhere? He hadn't SOUGHT to obtain a handgun permit, he DOES have one. Look at the angle... he couldnt see what the attacker (dead guy) was picking up through the HUGE CONCRETE COLUMN. What if the attacker said something like "I'm gonna kill you" while picking up the weapon? Yes, maybe the shooter felt threatened. In any case, the ruling is final. No charges will be pressed.

wow, he killed him after the dude had stopped in his tracks. i wonder what the guy had in his hand.

He told him "If you can dodge this, we'll have a sit-down."

This ain't Russia, motherfucker!

I'm British. I've been to the USA three times. Once to New York and the others were to Georgia and Florida. Each time i went I remarked on how 'cool' a night out was. There was NO aggression. NO fighting at all. Everyone had a great time and were particularly friendly. People didn't lock their houses when they went out. I asked the guys I was staying with why they didn't feel the need to lock up the house. They said that people wouldn't dare even attempt to open the door, just in case someone was home. Cos that person had every right to blow your fucking brains across the lounge. So, although I don't agree in principal with USA's gun laws, it obviously works. A bit like the need to have Nuclear weapons. While you have nukes, no-ones gonna nuke you.

A head shot was a little much...blast a knee-cap or something with the the first shot, if he keeps attacking...time for some facial surgery.

maybe he is just used to shooting men in the face before things get properly under way.

He didn't have all day to think about it.

He took 3 or 4 shots and he never went down!
A real trooper .

That's amazing - not only does the gun seem to actually move time backwards over and over, but the guy who gets shot doesn't even fall over!! AWESOME.

i was thinking about the gas station blowing up

What'd that guy have one of those plastic windshield washer buckets (gee that would of hurt). Might have left a nasty bruise. Looks like the attacker died standing up. Wow.

I understand that you guys in the UK probably don't get it because you don't live here. So here's some videos that might help inform you on the subject.
http://youtube.com/watch? v=qyoLuTjguJA
http://youtube.com/watch? v=CT6YRCS0oqE
http://youtube.com/watch? v=w_1r6aUJofM
Enjoy...

what a fuck is this, is TN becoming too liberal that you can't show the whole vid, what is this Scott??? damn.....

Either that or it was recorded off the six o'clock news where it's standard operating practice to cut out before they actually show somebody dying...

was GAS carbine weapon

Golden PP7 is better.

That dude stalled like a deer in headlights when he got shot.

Joo stoopid little cockroach. I told joo not to fuck with me, chico.

the guy with the gun got tired of the sonofabitch fucking with him. so what are ya to so when an asshole wont stop and the law wont help.
he asked for it he got it.

They were fighting over a woman. I guess she was the last one.

he was not putting the box down on purpose> its hard to hold things up when your dead on your feet. and if that poor chap in the uk went to prison for shooting a robber in his own home, then that is the scary place to live. what messege does that send the crooks? they cant stop us or they go to jail. tea anyone? nope ill stick with good ol us and a

you're right... and wrong. i live in the UK yes, the laws on self defence here are fucked. the only think you can just about get away with pounding a robber or attacker with is a torch, this way you can say, i had the torch to see where i was going and when i saw him it was my instant reaction to beat him with it. anything else other than your fists will never pass for self defence, because you picked it up with intent to harm. i agree that you should be able to punish someone who breaks into your home in any way you see fit. but in the "us of a" you have to be 18 to carry a gun... 16 to drive a car (any car you like) but yet you have to be 21 to drink a pint... LOGIC?! i don't know the statistics on gun murders in the US, but i bet you any money it's pretty fucking high. now think this... if no one had a gun then no one would need one would they? it is shit that you get jailed here for protecting your property, but i'd rather that than have 18 year olds walking around with guns, 16 year olds driving daddys ferrari (straight into your face)... also you only have to be 16 to have sex here, bonus!

the consenting age here in maine is also 16

Some good points. But the self defense laws are not that bad here. "reasonable force" is up for interpretation. Also just remember, it's your word against his and he is breaking into your house..he tried to hit you! It's not about what the police believe, it's about what a solicitor can PROVE, there is NO way to prove you were not just defending yourself from an aggressive intruder, so torture the cunt

HEY COOL

IN GRAND RAPIDS MICHIGAN
....IF YOUR BROTHER IS A COP
......AND YOUR LAST NAME IS TETT
..........AND YOU SHOOT A GUY NAMED RODRIGUEZ IN THE FACE
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....... its considered "justified"
...simple as that

i dont know much about michigan but i do know that many cases of american justice are laughable. i dont know how anyone can get away with shooting someone in the face. this guy didnt make any attempt to run or escape and he should only have used the gun as a last resort. this was str8 up murder, in the uk he would have been jailed for 8 - 15 years. if they give people gun licenses they should also make sure they know how to use the gun with some responsibility, shooting a man in the face aint fucking self defense

oh wtf i wanted to see the actually killing bit, i feel ripped off, title shouldnt say man gets bullet to face it should say man holds a gun.

gentlemen, in america hand guns are perfectly leagal to own and carry if you have the permit to do so. we are a violent society made even more brutal by desensitized animals watching sites like nothingtoxic and ogrish (r.i.p.) and in michigan, a particularly violent state (detroit is called MURDER CITY for a reason) everyone has a gun because there are som many deerhunters and criminals and its sometimes hard to tell the difference. your best bet as an american is to get a gun, register it, get a concealed weapons permit (80$ here in the state of washington) and blast any motherfucker who comes at you, because you only get one chance at life and why waste it on some meth smoking maniac who is rolling you for his next high...

I am glad you said it so ididnt have to type so much. IM in mississippi same goes here .I also carry a gun & a permit an will be glad to use it if nessary .

What he said,,,

Saw only half the video...

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good point ss. not long ago near my house some guy decided to fuck with another guy, at a gas station no less, and guess what, a off duty cop packing the heatz. needless to say that guy is no longer around.
but i also gotta add, carrying a weapon can also only escalate the problem at hand, as seen in the firsrt vid for exapmle. pull a gun and dont use it, or u pull a gun and dont use it fast enuf, you will recieve a much worse beating if not death then was going to happen in the first place.
i have no prob with ppl carrying weapons, but some of them are just trigger happy, if you dont feel your in a true life or death situation then why blast the guy in the face. not to mention some of these ppl who have permits to carry are taking them to pubs with them, are out drinking all night etc... are those the ppl you want carrying a weapon?
resposible use is all im saying
ok i got a tad off topic there, sorry.

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No,No,No this was an illegal killing.no one knows the guys back story, the guy with the gun may have been tormenting the dead guy for years or might have wronged him in the past...What else drove the dead guy out to the gas station on foot?
Also the guy was a bit to quick to draw his weapon..which he had previously sought a permit to conceal..(most likely with the intent to kill john doe)...so its bullshit
and also he felt threatened??...look at 0.07 when the dead guy drops the jerry can..it bounces..it was fucking PLASTIC....so nae I cry MURDER!!!!
chew on them balls internet..

thats exactly my point. in the news they say he picked up a large object but large in no way means harmful, it was a fucking jerry can. this guy lured the dead guy in, u never know what had happened between the two before the incident but he was too prepared. a fucking murderer has gotten away with ...errr ...murder

Fnny when the guy is just standing around, looks like he doesn't know what the HELL just happened.
"Did I just get shot in the Face? Damn, that'll leave a mark!"

Death penalty every time cheers!

...fill me up, leaded please.

How your comment doesn't have at least a 10 thumbs-up is beyond me

becuz its a pun, for his thumbs up # to just shoot up ,i cant get thru my head.
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umm, oops.

fill my car with primium gasoline 95 octane of bullet

Yeah that guy picked up what appeared to be a plastic garbage can or a squeegee thing, so he gets shot in the face for trying to start a little fight, that's crazy

FLAWLESS VICTORY.......FATALITY!

shit man fuck here here verrry well said here iz to you

just goes to show you not to go stirring up trouble and expect nothing to happen. Good job to the guy who defended himself from some asshole that thought he was a badass, Id like to know if he shit himself when he realized he was about to die.

i wish u could get carrying permits in my state, id probably go for robocops fully automatic handgun, or a tek 9 with extended clip and laser sight, holler

Don't try to hurt me an you won't get dead fuck that guy i'm glad there were no charges

Woa woa woa you all talk tough like you were some kind of Jason bourne, with the capacity to shoot in the head of somebody withtout second thoughts.
If you're able to do that, it means you're seriously fucked up, being able to dig a HOLE at point blank in the face of an unarmed human being.
That is in broad day light in a situation in which you HAVE, like the shooter in this vid, the initiative of pullinga more powerful weapon than the attacker, not being jumped by many or cornered..
That guy WILLINGLY shot a person in the face, although he could have easily forced him ( or at least try to ) lay on the ground with his hand behind his back, and then call the police.
If he did that it's because he knew he could handle the sight of a gunwound to the face for the rest of his life... and don't try to talk tough about that, i know that this would give any normal people nightmares for the rest of their lives...

unarmed r u fucking blind do you know how many poeple are beat to death everyday by some ordinary or not ordinary object.

yeah i'm talking about this vid to he was going to bash him in the head.Anyway just because i would have shot that guy dosen't make me a sociopath i'm sure that i would feel pretty bad from time to time.Atleast i wouldn't have brain damage or no more than i already have

fisrt off the vid is shitty and really quick, who really knows all the details. one thing for sure, no charges and deemed self defense. we can all argue that til death and it wont change a thing. now then if we outlaw guns, who will have them? the f$%78ing criminals. i agree there is no perfect situation, but ill still take the right to own and carry in the usa
got nothing but love for you all

FINISH HIM! ..........FATALITY

lol , i should really look at old comments mine and his were nearly identical XD

i think there never were any MK on nes, it was way too old when MK was released

wasnt it stickmen fighting did u have the robot that loaded ur games haha

I think everyone should carry guns. Half of everyone would be dead and the other half would be friends.lol

nice shot. you may have saved youself from serious injury or death.

I always get a kick reading posts from people in the UK. They always condem Americans for owning guns. I think this all goes back to the days when we were under British control, got guns, and chased their limey faggot asses back to England, TWICE. You guys keep on defending yourselves with your purses and peeing your knickers and we will take out our scum with guns. The guy should have sprayed him with gas, threw a match on him, and saved the bullet for a cat.

U FUCKIN PECK , what u just said was talk of a man who has been sexually abused at some point in his life by a close male family member , i bet ur bitter and twisted cuz ur dad picked ur sisters room over urs evry friday night when he returned from (how u queer yanks like to call it)bar

People like you make me laugh, the amount of gun deaths caused by people actually defending their lives or family is tiny compared to how many are killed in accidents or by criminals.

As a law abiding citizen, I know that if somebody breaks into my house, all I have to do is load a shell into my shotgun. The noise of the pump action by itself is enough to send them running. I don't actually have to pull the trigger to stop the crime. The difference between myself and the criminal is that I don't want to kill somebody if I don't have to whereas a criminal may see it as one less witness. That's why your statement about the number of gun deaths is skewed - nobody reports a crime that doesn't happen and contrary to popular belief, not very many Americans really want to kill, kill, kill. I posted some links to some youtube videos earlier. They are a level-headed view of guns in the US.

like you got anything to do with anything

Never bring a trashcan to a gunfight...

Im just going to say I LOVE THE U. S. A.

that dude was able to stand for quite some time after being shot in the grill..

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wish i could kill someone

It costs an arm and a leg for a tank of gas anyway...

Well thats what he gets for attacking with a garbage can.

arent dead people, like this guy, who take a bullet to the face supposto die, or at least fall to the ground or something?

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dead man standing....

If ten people start on me and my girlfriend and I bite the throat out of one guy, I get done. You can't fucking defend yourself in the UK but if those ten had kicked my girlfriend to death, they would get around five years and then be out to enjoy the rest of their life whereas my life would be over with a dead girlfried. There is no way of defending yourself in the UK. This guy in America can carry a gun and shoot the guy dead and it's okay? My country is bullshit,.

so.... was it unleaded or what... newsreader didnt say... we need details here... tell the whole god damn story.... FFS....

They did show him shooting the gun, if you watch it as the guy lifts the item up over his head you can see the victims hand kick back just a little bit from the recoil. So he did shoot him and THEN he backed down. Now if he fired again after that you can't tell and that would be unjustified. But from what I see on here it seems totally justified. And to the moron that is okay with the guy who was imprisoned for shooting a burglar in his own home, that's just plain stupid. Someone comes into my home with my family in it and he's the least bit non-compliant then he's gonna get his ass shot. You need to remember it's MY house not his, it's his choice to illegally enter a house, knowing full well that people inside may own a gun. And I'm not going to risk my life with fighting with someone inside my house, nor just bow down to a burglar in the hopes that he won't hurt me. Thank god for the 2A!!

Didn't he die? Why did he stand there if he got shot in the face? Let the bodies hit the floor, indeed.

Good for this guy!
And for the rest of the world who condems America for the 2nd amendment F*** off!

The shooter, Glenn Tett, is the brother of a Grand Rapids police officer. He was never charged for the shooting. Yes, the guy he shot died, his name is Gabriel Rodriguez. Rodriguez approached Lett at a Shell station in Grand Rapids Michigan over a dispute that developed after Lett gave Rodriguez' fiance a ride in November. Moral of the story: It pays to have a cop as a brother! Lett is a free man..

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tell me this guy didnt go to jail. this is a great example of someone defending himself against a honkin 5A. dangerous to fire in a petrol station though! good effort sir

THIS IS AN UNFORTUNATE CASE CLEARLY THE MAN COULD HAVE AIMED DOWN AND SHOT THE MAN ANYWHERE ELSE BUT INSTEAD HE LOOKED HIM DIRECTLY IN HIS FACE SO HE COULD SEE HIM DIE THIS IS A CASE OF COLD BLOODED MURDER OTHER STEPS COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN BUT THIS GUY WANTED THAT MAN DEAD! SEEING AS HOW THEY SAID HE GOT OFF WITHOUT ANY CHARGES ILL HAVE TO MAKE A STOP THE NEXT TIME IM GOING THROUGH THIS GUYS TOWN!
TO THE SHOOTER I SWEAR ON EVERYTHING IF I EVER MET U I WOULD EXECUTE YOU WITHOUT THOUGHT! OH AND ILL LET YA KNOW ITS COMING WOULDN'T WANT U TO DIE WITHOUT TELLING U AHEAD OF TIME. THAT WOULD BE DOWN RIGHT HUMANE!

If you say you would execute this man, would you not be a "COLD BLOODED MURDERER"?
by the way this was a self defense case, the man killed was harassing the gunmans girlfriend/family. heard about it all on the news i live near GR.

That is how you deal with non-whites.

i didnt see any killing

"Acted in self" defence......hahahahahahh ahahahahahahahahahaha
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hahahahhahahahahahahahahh ahahaha....sorry, oh geez, damn, gotta love the american justice system....funny guys.

I don't get it. At the end of the video the attacker appears to be just standing there. Did the bullet bounce off his face? At no point do I see what appears to be someone getting shot in the face there...

good for him

THIS IS A COLD MURDERER NO MATTHER WHAT THEY SAY IST A BUNCH A ASSOLES IN THAT TOWN AMERICAN JUSTICE SISTEM? MY ASS!

YEAH RIGHT SELF DEFENSE!